[ENG TRANSLATION] Dual Forms of Expression

Yuzuru Hanyu Interview with Ms.Kanon Matsuda – 17.10.2017

Translation: @yuzueco
Proofreading: @BlueFlame4Yuzu

Original Link :

http://www.toto-growing.com/interview29_1

https://www.toto-growing.com/interview29_2

Yuzuru Hanyu x Kanon Matsuda
Translation by Ecovail @yuzueco
Proofread by Tsuki @Tsukihoshi14 & Rin @BlueFlameforYUZU

้ฆ–้ƒฝๅœๆŸๆ‰€ใ€ๆŸ”ใ‚‰ใ‹ใชๅ…‰ใŒ้™ใ‚Šๆณจใใ‚คใƒ™ใƒณใƒˆใƒ›ใƒผใƒซใซใ€็พŽใ—ใๅŠ›ๅผทใ„ๆ—‹ๅพ‹ใŒ้Ÿฟใ„ใŸใ€‚ใ‚ทใƒงใƒ‘ใƒณใ€Žใƒใƒฉใƒผใƒ‰็ฌฌ๏ผ‘็•ชใ€ใ€‚ๆผ”ๅฅ่€…ใฏๆพ็”ฐ่ฏ้Ÿณใ•ใ‚“ใ€‚6ๆญณใ‹ใ‚‰ใƒขใ‚นใ‚ฏใƒฏใซๆธกใ‚Šใ€2014ๅนดใ‹ใ‚‰ๆ—ฅๆœฌไบบๅˆใฎใƒญใ‚ทใ‚ขๆ”ฟๅบœ็‰นๅˆฅๅฅจๅญฆ็”Ÿใจใ—ใฆใƒขใ‚นใ‚ฏใƒฏ้Ÿณๆฅฝ้™ขใงๅญฆใถใ€ไปŠๆœ€ใ‚‚ๆณจ็›ฎใ•ใ‚Œใ‚‹่‹ฅๆ‰‹ใƒ”ใ‚ขใƒ‹ใ‚นใƒˆใ ใ€‚ๆพ็”ฐใ•ใ‚“ใฎๆ–œใ‚ๅพŒๆ–นใงใฏใ€ใ‚นใƒฉใƒชใจๆ‰‹่ถณใฎไผธใณใŸ้’ๅนดใŒ็›ฎใ‚’้–‰ใ˜ใ€ๆ™‚ใซใฏไฝ“ใงใƒชใ‚บใƒ ใ‚’ใจใ‚ŠใชใŒใ‚‰ๆผ”ๅฅใซ่ดใๅ…ฅใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ€‚ใ“ใฎๆ›ฒใ‚’2017-18ใ‚ทใƒผใ‚บใƒณใฎใ‚ทใƒงใƒผใƒˆใƒ—ใƒญใ‚ฐใƒฉใƒ ใงๆผ”ใ˜ใ‚‹ใ€ใƒ•ใ‚ฃใ‚ฎใƒฅใ‚ขใ‚นใ‚ฑใƒผใƒˆใฎ็พฝ็”Ÿ็ตๅผฆ้ธๆ‰‹ใงใ‚ใ‚‹ใ€‚

A beautiful and powerful melody sounded somewhere around Tokyo. Chopin Ballade No. 1. The performer is Ms. Kanon Matsuda. Moving to Moscow at the age of 6, she is the most noted young pianist who has studied at the Moscow Conservatory since 2014 as the first Japanese to receive the Russian government special scholarship.

Off to the side, behind Ms. Matsuda, a young man leans, with closed eyes, sometimes following the rhythm of the music with his body. The man is Yuzuru Hanyu, a figure skater who performs to this song for his short program in the 2017-2018 season.

็ซ‹ใกไผšใฃใŸ้–ขไฟ‚่€…ๅ…จๅ“กใŒๆฏใ‚’้ฃฒใ‚€ใ€ๅœงๅ€’็š„ใชๆผ”ๅฅใ€‚็ต‚ไบ†ๅพŒใ€ๆพ็”ฐใ•ใ‚“ใŒ็ซ‹ใกไธŠใŒใ‚Šใ€็พฝ็”Ÿ้ธๆ‰‹ใซๅ‘ใ‹ใฃใฆไธ€็คผใ™ใ‚‹ใจใ€็พฝ็”Ÿ้ธๆ‰‹ใฏไธ€ๆ—ฆใ‚ซใƒกใƒฉใ‚’ๆญขใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†้ก˜ใ„ๅ‡บใŸใ€‚

It was a breathtaking performance for all who witnessed it. After the performance, when Ms. Matsuda got up and bowed to Hanyu, he asked the cameraman to stop filming.

ใ€Œใ™ใ„ใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€ๆฑ—ใ‹ใ„ใกใ‚ƒใฃใŸใฎใงใ€‚ไปŠใ€้ ญใฎไธญใงใšใฃใจ๏ผˆใ‚ทใƒงใƒผใƒˆใƒ—ใƒญใ‚ฐใƒฉใƒ ใฎๆผ”็›ฎใ‚’๏ผ‰ใ‚„ใฃใฆใŸใ‚“ใงใ™ใ‚ˆใ€‚ใ‚ใ‚ใƒผ็ทŠๅผตใ—ใŸใ€

“I’m sorry. I’m sweating. I was doing my short program in my head while listening. Oh, I was nervous!”

ใƒใƒณใ‚ซใƒใง้ฆ–็ญ‹ใ‚’ใฌใใ„ใ€ใƒ‰ใƒชใƒณใ‚ฏใ‚’ๅฃใซใ—ใฆไธ€ๆฏใคใใจใ€็พฝ็”Ÿ้ธๆ‰‹ใฏๅ†ใณๆพ็”ฐใ•ใ‚“ใฎๅ…ƒใธใจๆˆปใฃใฆ่กŒใฃใŸใ€‚ ่Šธ่ก“ใจใ‚นใƒใƒผใƒ„ใ€ไบŒไบบใฎ่‹ฅใๆ‰่ƒฝใŒใ€Œ่กจ็พใ€ใซใคใ„ใฆ่ชžใ‚Šๅง‹ใ‚ใŸใ€‚

Hanyu wiped the sweat off his neck with a handkerchief, took a sip of his drink and took a breath. Then he returned to Ms. Matsuda. Art and sports: the two young talents began to discuss “expression”.

H: Yuzuru Hanyu, M: Kanon Matsuda

๏ผ’ไบบใซใจใฃใฆใ€ใ‚ทใƒงใƒ‘ใƒณใ€Žใƒใƒฉใƒผใƒ‰็ฌฌ๏ผ‘็•ชใ€ใจใฏ๏ผŸ                                                               For these two, what is Chopin's Ballade No. 1?
็พฝ็”Ÿ:็ด ๆ™ดใ‚‰ใ—ใ„ๆผ”ๅฅใงใ—ใŸใ€‚ใ“ใ†ใ„ใ†ใƒ”ใ‚ขใƒŽใงๆป‘ใฃใฆใฟใŸใ„ใชใฃใฆๆ€ใˆใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใชใ€‚
H:It was a wonderful performance. I'd like to skate to such piano music.
ๆพ็”ฐ:ใ‚ใ‚ŠใŒใจใ†ใ”ใ–ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
M:Thank you very much!
็พฝ็”Ÿ:ใ“ใฎใ‚ทใƒงใƒ‘ใƒณใฎใ€Žใƒใƒฉใƒผใƒ‰็ฌฌ๏ผ‘็•ชใ€ใซใฏใฉใ‚“ใชๆ€ใ„ๅ…ฅใ‚ŒใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
H: What does Ballade No. 1 mean to you?                                                                                               
Kanon Matsuda
ๆพ็”ฐ: ็งใฎๅ‡บ่บซๅœฐใงใ‚ใ‚‹้ฆ™ๅท็œŒใง้–‹ๅ‚ฌใ•ใ‚ŒใŸใƒชใ‚ตใ‚คใ‚ฟใƒซใงๆผ”ๅฅใ—ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ใใฎๅพŒใซใƒ‡ใƒ“ใƒฅใƒผ๏ผฃ๏ผค๏ผˆใ€Žๆพ็”ฐ่ฏ้Ÿณใƒ‡ใƒ“ใƒฅใƒผใƒปใƒชใ‚ตใ‚คใ‚ฟใƒซใ€๏ผ‰ใซๅŽ้Œฒใ•ใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒๆฑบใพใฃใŸใฎใงใ€ๆ€ใ„ๅ‡บใฎๆ›ฒใงใ™ใ€‚

M: I played this song at a recital in Kagawa Prefecture, where I'm from. After that, it was decided that it would be included in my debut CD (Matsuda Kanon Debut Recital). So, it is a good memory for me.
็พฝ็”Ÿ:ๅฎŸใฏใใฎ๏ผฃ๏ผคใ‚’ใ€ๆ˜จๆ—ฅใšใƒผใฃใจ่ดใ‹ใ›ใฆใ„ใŸใ ใ„ใฆใ„ใŸใ‚“ใงใ™ใ€‚
H: Actually, I was listening to that CD all day yesterday.
ๆพ็”ฐ:ใใ†ใชใ‚“ใงใ™ใ‹๏ผใ€€ใ‚ใ‚ŠใŒใจใ†ใ”ใ–ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
M: Really? I'm so happy to hear that!
็พฝ็”Ÿ:ๆพ็”ฐใ•ใ‚“ใฏๆฅฝๆ›ฒใ‚’็‰ฉ่ชžใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซ่งฃ้‡ˆใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจใŠ่žใใ—ใพใ—ใŸใŒใ€ใ“ใฎๆ›ฒใซใฏใฉใ‚“ใช็‰ฉ่ชžใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ

H: I heard that you interpret songs like stories. What kind of story do you think this song has?
ๆพ็”ฐ: ๆฏŽๅ›ž้•ใฃใŸ็‰ฉ่ชžใ‚’่€ƒใˆใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚“ใงใ™ใ‘ใ‚Œใฉใ€ไปŠๅ›žใฏใ‚ดใƒผใƒซใ‚บใƒฏใƒผใ‚ธใƒผใฎๅฐ่ชฌใ€Žใƒ•ใ‚ฉใƒผใ‚ตใ‚คใƒˆๅฎถ็‰ฉ่ชžใ€ใซๅ‡บใฆใใ‚‹ใ‚ฝใƒผใƒ ใ‚บใจใ‚คใƒฌใƒณ๏ผˆใ‚ขใ‚คใƒชใƒผใƒณ๏ผ‰ใฎ้–ขไฟ‚ใ€ใ‚ฝใƒผใƒ ใ‚บใŒใ‚คใƒฌใƒณใ‚’ๆƒณใ†ๆฐ—ๆŒใกใ‚’้Ÿณๆฅฝใซใ—ใฆใฟใ‚ˆใ†ใ‹ใชใฃใฆ่€ƒใˆใฆใฟใŸใ‚“ใงใ™ใ€‚


M: I try to think of different stories each time. But this time, I was trying to think about the relationship between Soames and Irene in the Forsyte Saga by Galsworthy, and try to include Soames's feelings for Irene in the music.
็พฝ็”Ÿ:ใ™ใ”ใ„ใชใ‚ใ€ๆœฌใ‚’ใ‚ˆใ่ชญใพใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ‚“ใงใ™ใญใ€‚
H: Wow! That is really impressive! Do you read a lot?
Yuzuru Hanyu x Kanon Matsuda
ๆพ็”ฐ:ใฏใ„ใ€ๅฅฝใใชใ‚“ใงใ™ใ€‚
M: I do. I love reading.
็พฝ็”Ÿ:ๅƒ•ใซใจใฃใฆใ“ใฎใ€Žใƒใƒฉใƒผใƒ‰็ฌฌ๏ผ‘็•ชใ€ใฏใ€ใ‚‚ใกใ‚ใ‚“ๆ›ฒใซใคใ„ใฆใ‚‚ๆ€ใ„ๅ…ฅใ‚Œใฏๅผทใใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‚“ใงใ™ใ‘ใ‚Œใฉใ€ใชใ‚“ใฆ่จ€ใ†ใ‚“ใ ใ‚ใ†ใชใ€ๅ‰ฒใจ่‡ชๅˆ†ใงใ„ใ‚‰ใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ€‚่‡ชๅˆ†่‡ช่บซใŒๆ›ฒใจๅŒๅŒ–ใงใใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใซๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚

H: For me, about this Ballade No. 1 - of course, I have strong feelings. How can I explain: I can be myself. I feel like I can assimilate myself into this song.
ๆพ็”ฐ: ใชใ‚‹ใปใฉใ€‚
M: I see.
็พฝ็”Ÿ:่‡ชๅˆ†ใฎไธญใงใ€Œใ“ใ‚Œใ‚’ไผใˆใŸใ„ใ€ใ€Œใ‚ใ‚Œใ‚’ไผใˆใŸใ„ใ€ใฃใฆๆผ”ๆŠ€ใ™ใ‚‹ๅ‰ใ‹ใ‚‰ๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚ใ‘ใ˜ใ‚ƒใชใใฆใ€ใ‚„ใฃใฆใ‚‹ๆœ€ไธญใซไฝ•ใ‹ใŒๅ‡บๆฅไธŠใŒใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ€‚

H: I don't own it before I perform it, like "I want to express this" or "I want to express that". Within myself, something is being completed while I'm actually performing it.
ๆพ็”ฐ:็ด ๆ™ดใ‚‰ใ—ใ„ใ€‚
M: That's amazing!
็พฝ็”Ÿ:ๆพ็”ฐใ•ใ‚“ใฎๆผ”ๅฅใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ๅงฟใ‚’่ฆ‹ใฆๆ€ใฃใŸใฎใฏใ€ๅŠ›ใฎๅ…ฅใ‚Œๆ–นใจใ‹ๆฏใฎๆŠœใๆ–นใจใ‹ๅ‘ผๅธใจใ‹ใ‚’ใ™ใ”ใ„ๅคงไบ‹ใซใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใชใ‚ใฃใฆใ€‚ใ‚นใ‚ฑใƒผใƒˆใ‚’ๆป‘ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ๆ„Ÿ่ฆšใจไผผใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใ‹ใชใฃใฆๆ€ใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ใงใ™ใ‹ใ‚‰ๆผ”ๅฅใ‚’่ดใ„ใฆใ€ใ“ใ†ใ„ใ†ใ‚‚ใฎใ‚’ไฝœใ‚‰ใชใใกใ‚ƒใ„ใ‘ใชใ„ใ‚“ใ ใชใ‚ใจใ€ๅญฆใฐใ›ใฆใ„ใŸใ ใใพใ—ใŸใ€‚

H: When I watched you perform, I thought that you place importance on the way you exert force, breathing out and breathing in. Maybe that is similar to the feeling of skating. So, listening to your performance, Iโ€™ve learned that I have to do something like that, too.
Yuzuru Hanyu
ๆพ็”ฐ:ใ™ใ”ใๅฌ‰ใ—ใ„ใงใ™ใ€‚ใ‚ใ‚ŠใŒใจใ†ใ”ใ–ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚็งใฏใƒขใ‚นใ‚ฏใƒฏใฎ่‡ชๅฎ…ใฎใƒ†ใƒฌใƒ“ใงใ‚ฝใƒใ‚ชใƒชใƒณใƒ”ใƒƒใ‚ฏใ‚’ใšใฃใจ่ฆ‹ใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ใƒ•ใ‚ฃใ‚ฎใƒฅใ‚ขใ‚นใ‚ฑใƒผใƒˆใฏไป–ใฎใ‚นใƒใƒผใƒ„ใจ้•ใฃใฆใ€้Ÿณๆฅฝใ‚’่ดใ„ใฆๆ„Ÿใ˜ใŸใ‚‚ใฎใ‚’ใ•ใ‚‰ใซไฝ“ใง่กจ็พใ™ใ‚‹่Šธ่ก“็š„ใช็ซถๆŠ€ใงใ™ใ‚ˆใญใ€‚็พฝ็”Ÿ้ธๆ‰‹ใฎใ‚น
ใ‚ฑใƒผใƒˆใ‹ใ‚‰ใฏๆƒ…็†ฑใจใ„ใ†ใ‹ใ€ใ‚จใƒใƒซใ‚ฎใƒผใŒใ™ใ”ใไผใ‚ใฃใฆใใพใ™ใ€‚

M: I'm so happy to hear that. Thank you very much. I watched the Sochi Olympics on TV at home in Moscow. Unlike other sports, figure skating is an artistic competition that further expresses what you feel listening to music. From your skating, I feel passion and a lot of energy is transmitted.
ๆผ”ๅฅใƒปๆผ”ๆŠ€ใ‚’้€šใ—ใฆ่ฆณๅฎขใซไผใˆใŸใ„ใ“ใจ
What do you wish to convey to the audience through your performances?
็พฝ็”Ÿ:ๅ…ˆใปใฉใ€ŒๆฏŽๅ›ž้•ใฃใŸ็‰ฉ่ชžใ‚’่€ƒใˆใ‚‹ใ€ใจใŠใฃใ—ใ‚ƒใ„ใพใ—ใŸใŒใ€ใใ‚ŒใฏๅŒใ˜ๆ›ฒใงใ‚‚ๆผ”ๅฅใฎใŸใณใซ้•ใ†ใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจ๏ผŸ

H: As you mentioned earlier, "to think of a different story each time". But does it mean that you do so each time you perform, even for the same song?
ๆพ็”ฐ:ใˆใˆใ€‚ๅŒใ˜ใ“ใจใ‚’่€ƒใˆใ‚ˆใ†ใจๆ€ใฃใฆใ‚‚ใ€ใชใ‹ใชใ‹ใงใใชใ„ใงใ™ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€‚้›จใŒ้™ใฃใฆใ„ใŸใ‚‰ใ€Œใ‚ใ€้›จใŒใ„ใ„ใชใ€ใฃใฆใกใ‚‡ใฃใจๆ‚ฒใ—ใ„ๆฐ—ๆŒใกใงๅผพใ„ใฆใฟใŸใ‚Šใ€ใพใŸใฏๅธŒๆœ›ใ‚’ๆ„Ÿใ˜ใ‚‹ๆฐ—ๆŒใกใงๅผพใ„ใฆใฟใŸใ‚Šใ€‚

M: Yes. Even if I try to think the same as before, I can't do it easily. If it's raining: "Oh, it's rainy" and I try to play with a slightly sad feeling, or try to play with the feeling of hope.
็พฝ็”Ÿ:ใ‚นใƒ†ใƒผใ‚ธใซๅ…ฅใ‚‹ๅ‰ใ‹ใ‚‰็‰ฉ่ชžใ‚’ๆฑบใ‚ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚“ใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
H: Do you decide on the story before going onstage?
 
ๆพ็”ฐ:ใฏใ„ใ€‚ๅ…จไฝ“ใฏๆฑบใ‚ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ใŸใ ใ€ใ‚ˆใ‚Šใ‚ญใƒฃใƒฉใ‚ฏใ‚ฟใƒผใ‚’ใฏใฃใใ‚Šๅ‡บใ—ใŸใ„ๅ ดๆ‰€ใ ใ‘ใฏใ€ใ‚นใƒ†ใƒผใ‚ธใซไธŠใŒใ‚‹็›ดๅ‰ใพใง้ ญใฎไธญใงใ‚ฐใƒซใ‚ฐใƒซใ‚ฐใƒซใ‚ฐใƒซใจ่€ƒใˆใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚‚ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใญใ€‚

M: Yes. I decide it vaguely. However, if there's a character I clearly want to convey, I go over and over it in my head until just before I go onstage.
็พฝ็”Ÿ:ใงใ‚‚ใƒ”ใ‚ขใƒŽใฎใ‚ฏใƒฉใ‚ทใƒƒใ‚ฏใฃใฆ็ตๆง‹ใ‚ญใƒฃใƒฉใŒๆฑบใพใฃใฆใชใ„ใ“ใจใŒๅคšใ„ใ˜ใ‚ƒใชใ„ใงใ™ใ‹ใ€‚ใใฎๆ—ฅใฎๅคฉๆฐ—ใจใ‹ไผšๅ ดใฎ้›ฐๅ›ฒๆฐ—ใจใ‹๏ผˆใฎๅฝฑ้ŸฟใŒ๏ผ‰ใ™ใ”ใใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ‚ˆใญใ€‚

H: But there are many cases where classical piano music doesn't have a concrete character. There is a lot of influence from the outside weather or the atmosphere in the venue, isn't there?
ๆพ็”ฐใ€€ใ†ใ‚“ใ†ใ‚“ใ€ใใ†ใชใ‚“ใงใ™ใ€‚
M: Yes. Exactly.
็พฝ็”Ÿ:ใใ†ใ„ใ†ไบบ้–“ๆ€งใฟใŸใ„ใชใ‚‚ใฎใ€ไปŠใพใง็ตŒ้จ“ใ—ใฆใใŸใ“ใจใจใ‹ใ€ไปŠใฎ่‡ชๅˆ†ใฎๆ€ใ„ใฎ่ƒŒๆ™ฏใจใ‹ใ€ใใ†ใ„ใ†ใ‚‚ใฎใ‚’ๆพ็”ฐใ•ใ‚“ใฏ่กจ็พใ•ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚“ใ ใชใ‚ใฃใฆๆ€ใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚

H: I thought that you are expressing things such as human nature, things that you've experienced so far and the background of your current thoughts .
 
ๆพ็”ฐ:ใƒ•ใ‚ฃใ‚ฎใƒฅใ‚ขใ‚นใ‚ฑใƒผใƒˆใฏใฉใ†ใชใ‚“ใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
M: How is it in figure skating?
็พฝ็”Ÿ:้Ÿณใ‚’ๅ‡บใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ๆ„Ÿ่ฆšใซ่ฟ‘ใ„ใฎใ‹ใชใฃใฆๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ใ‚‚ใกใ‚ใ‚“ๆ›ฒใฏใงใใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€็„กใ‹ใ‚‰่‡ชๅˆ†ใงไฝœใ‚Šๅ‡บใ™ใ‚‚ใฎใ˜ใ‚ƒใชใ„ใงใ™ใ‘ใฉใ€ใงใ‚‚ๅƒ•ใฏใ€Œใ“ใฎไบบใ€ๆ›ฒใซๅˆใ‚ใ›ใฆๆป‘ใฃใฆใ‚‹ใฎใจใฏ้•ใ†ใ‚“ใ ใ€ใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใ‚’ๆ„Ÿใ˜ใฆใ‚‚ใ‚‰ใ„ใŸใ„ใชใจๆ€ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚“ใงใ™ใ€‚

H: I think it's close to the sensation of producing sounds. Of course, the song exists already, it is not something you create yourself, but I hope people will feel: "This person is not just skating along with the song".
Yuzuru Hanyu
ๆพ็”ฐ:ใˆใˆใ€ใˆใˆใ€‚่‡ชๅˆ†่‡ช่บซใงๆ„ๅ‘ณใ‚’ใ€ไธ€ๆญฉไธ€ๆญฉใซๆ„ๅ‘ณใ‚’ๅ…ฅใ‚Œใ‚‹ใฃใฆใ„ใ†ๆ„Ÿใ˜ใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
M: I see. I see. You mean putting your own meaning into the song?
Something like putting meaning into every step?
 
็พฝ็”Ÿ:ๅ…ฅใ‚Œใ‚‹ใจใ„ใ†ใ‚ˆใ‚Šใ€ใชใ‚“ใ‹ใ€Œๅ…ฅใฃใฆใ‚‹ใ€ๆ„Ÿใ˜ใ€‚่ดใ„ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ไบบใ‚‚่ฆ‹ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ไบบใ‚‚ใ€ใใ—ใฆๆป‘ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹่‡ชๅˆ†ใ‚‚ใ€็ตๅฑ€ใฟใ‚“ใช้•ใ†้ŽๅŽปใ€้•ใ†็ตŒ้จ“ใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ†ใ‚“ใงใ™ใ€‚ไพ‹ใˆใฐๆ‚ฒใ—ใ„ๆ›ฒใงใ‚‚ใ€่‡ชๅˆ†่‡ช่บซใฎ่ฟ‘ใใซๆ‚ฒใ—ใ„ใ“ใจใŒใ‚ใฃใŸใ‚‰ใ™ใ”ใ„ๆ‚ฒใ—ใใชใ‚‹ใ—ใ€็›ดๅ‰ใซๆฅฝใ—ใ„ใ“ใจใŒใ‚ใฃใฆใ‚ฆใ‚ญใ‚ฆใ‚ญใ—ใŸ็Šถๆ…‹ใ ใฃใŸใ‚‰ๆ„Ÿใ˜ๆ–นใŒ้•ใ†ใจๆ€ใ†ใ—ใ€ๆ‚ฒใ—ใฟใฎๅพŒใซใ‚„ใฃใฆใใ‚‹ๅธŒๆœ›ใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใชใ‚‚ใฎใŒ่ฆ‹ใˆใŸใ‚Šใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚‚ใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใชใ„ใ—ใ€‚ๅƒ•ใฏใใ†ใ„ใ†ใฎใ‚’ใ™ใ”ใๅคงไบ‹ใซใ—ใŸใ„ใชใฃใฆๆ€ใฃใฆใ„ใฆใ€‚ใ ใ‹ใ‚‰่‡ชๅˆ†ใฎไผใˆใŸใ„ใ“ใจใฏใŸใใ•ใ‚“ใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‘ใ‚Œใฉใ€่ฆ‹ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ๆ–นใใ‚Œใžใ‚Œใซใ€Œไฝ•ใ‹ใ€ใŒไผใ‚ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚Œใฐใ„ใ„ใชใ‚ใ€ใฃใฆๆ€ใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚

H: Instead of "putting", it's more like "entering". Everyone who's listening and watching, and even me whoโ€™s skating, all have different pasts, different experiences. For example, a sad song -if you experienced something sad recently, will make you feel extremely sad,but if you've just had fun and are feeling excited, the way you feel it will be different. You may be able to see something like hope comes after sorrow. I really want to pay attention to those kind of things. There are many things I want to convey, but I want to convey a different "something" to every person watching.

ๆพ็”ฐใ€€ใใฎๆ„Ÿ่ฆšใ€็ด ๆ™ดใ‚‰ใ—ใ„ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
M: I think that sense you have is wonderful.
Yuzuru Hanyu
Yuzuru Hanyu x Kanon Matsuda
ๆฅฝๆ›ฒใซๅฏพใ—ใฆๆƒ…็†ฑใ‚’ๆณจใ’ใ‚‹ใ‹ใ€ๆทฑใฟใ‚’่ฟฝๆฑ‚ใงใใ‚‹ใ‹
Do you embrace passion in music or pursue depth?
 
ๆพ็”ฐ:็พฝ็”Ÿ้ธๆ‰‹ใฏ็พŽใ—ใ•ใ‚„่กจ็พๅŠ›ใซใคใ„ใฆใ€ใฉใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซใŠ่€ƒใˆใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
M: What do you think about beauty and the ability to express it?
 
็พฝ็”Ÿ:ใƒ•ใ‚ฃใ‚ฎใƒฅใ‚ขใ‚นใ‚ฑใƒผใƒˆใฏๆŠ€่ก“็š„ใชใ“ใจใŒใ™ใ”ใ็›ฎ็ซ‹ใค็ซถๆŠ€ใงใ™ใ€‚ใƒฌใƒ™ใƒซใฎ้ซ˜ใ„ใƒ—ใƒญใ‚ฐใƒฉใƒ ใงใ€ใ‚ธใƒฃใƒณใƒ—ใชใฉใ‚’ใ™ในใฆใใ‚Œใ„ใซๆฑบใ‚ใ‚‰ใ‚Œใ‚Œใฐใ€ใใ‚ŒใŒ็ฉถๆฅตใ€‚
H: Figure skating is explicitly technical. The ultimate goal is to land all your jump and other elements cleanly in a high-level program.
 
ใใฎไธญใงใ€ใ€Œใ“ใ‚Œใ‚’ไผใˆใ‚ˆใ†ใ€ใ€Œใ‚ใ‚Œใ‚’ไผใˆใ‚ˆใ†ใ€ใจใ‚„ใ‚Šใ™ใŽใ‚‹ใจใ€ใใกใ‚ƒใใกใ‚ƒใซใชใฃใกใ‚ƒใฃใฆใƒŸใ‚นใ‚‚ๅข—ใˆใฆใ€ๆœ€็ต‚็š„ใซไผใ‚ใ‚‰ใชใ„ใ“ใจใŒๅคšใ„ใ‹ใชใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚่‡ชๅˆ†ใฎๆฐ—ๆŒใกใ ใฃใฆใใกใ‚ƒใใกใ‚ƒใซใชใฃใกใ‚ƒใ†ใ—ใ€‚
Within that framework, if you think too much about "Let's tell this" or "Let's tell that", you will mess up, make more mistakes and, in my opinion, end up not conveying what you want. And it messes up my feelings, too.
 
ๆพ็”ฐใ•ใ‚“ใฏๆ€ใ„ใฉใŠใ‚Šใซใ„ใ‹ใชใ„ๆ™‚ใฃใฆใฉใ†ใ—ใพใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
How about you? What do you do when the situation doesnโ€™t line up with your expectations?
Yuzuru Hanyu
ๆพ็”ฐ:ใ‚ณใƒณใ‚ตใƒผใƒˆใ‚„ๆผ”ๅฅไผšใงๅผพใ„ใฆใ„ใฆใ€ใ€Œใ“ใ“ๆ€ใ„ใฉใŠใ‚Šใซใ„ใ‹ใชใ‹ใฃใŸใชใ€ใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใฏๅฟ…ใšใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚ใงใ‚‚็งใฏใ‚„ใฃใฑใ‚Šใ€้Ÿณใ€‚ๅ‡บใ™้Ÿณใฎใ“ใจใ‚’่€ƒใˆใชใ„ใจใ„ใ‘ใชใ„ใฎใงใ€ๆŠ€่ก“ใ‚ˆใ‚Šๆ›ฒใฎใ‚คใƒกใƒผใ‚ธใ‚„ใ€ไผใˆใŸใ„ใƒกใƒƒใ‚ปใƒผใ‚ธใ‚’่€ƒใˆใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚

M: There's no doubt that "Things did not go as I expected" moments happen during concerts and recitals. But, for me, the sound is the ultimate. I have to consider the quality of the sound, so I think more about the images of the songs and the messages I would like to give rather than the technical aspects.
 
็พฝ็”Ÿ:ไพ‹ใˆใฐใ€ๆผ”ๅฅ้€”ไธญใง้ŸณใŒ๏ผ‘ๅ€‹้ฃ›ใ‚“ใ ใ‚Šใ—ใฆใ‚‚ใ€ใใฎๅ ดใงๅฎŒๅ…จใซๅฟ˜ใ‚ŒๅŽปใฃใฆใ‚‹ใ‚“ใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
H: For example, even if one note eludes you while you are playing, do you completely forget about it after that moment?
 
ๆพ็”ฐ:ๅฟ˜ใ‚ŒๅŽปใฃใฆใพใ™ใญ๏ผˆ็ฌ‘๏ผ‰ใ€‚ใ‚ทใƒฃใƒƒใƒˆใ‚ขใ‚ฆใƒˆใ—ใชใ„ใจใพใŸๅŒใ˜ใ“ใจใ‚’็นฐใ‚Š่ฟ”ใ™ๅฏ่ƒฝๆ€งใŒใ‚ใฃใŸใ‚Šใ€้ŸณๆฅฝใŒๆญขใพใฃใฆใ—ใพใฃใŸใ‚Šโ€ฆโ€ฆใ€‚
M: Yes, it completely disappears after that moment! [laughs]
If you don't shut out that mistake, you could make the same mistake again, and then the music itself would stop.
 
ใ‚คใƒกใƒผใ‚ธใ‚’ใ€ใ‚นใƒˆใƒผใƒชใƒผใ‚’็ถšใ‘ใฆใ„ใ‹ใชใ„ใจๆ›ฒใŒ็ถšใ„ใฆใ„ใ‹ใชใ„ใฎใงใ€ใƒŸใ‚นใฎใ“ใจใฏๅฟ˜ใ‚Œใพใ™ใ€‚ๅฎŸ้š›ใ€ๆผ”ๅฅใ—ใŸๅพŒใ€ŒไปŠๆ—ฅ้–“้•ใฃใฆใŸใ‚ˆใญใ€ใฃใฆ่จ€ใ‚ใ‚Œใฆใ‚‚ใ€Œใใ†ใ ใฃใŸใฃใ‘๏ผŸใ€ใฃใฆๆ€ใ†ใ“ใจใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
You need to keep playing the images and stories, otherwise, the song doesn't continue. So, I sweep away the mistakes.
And, in fact, if someone points it out - "You made mistakes today, didn't you?", there are times I wonder, "Did I?"
 
็พฝ็”Ÿ:ๅƒ•ใ‚‚ใ‚ธใƒฃใƒณใƒ—ใจใ‹ใงใƒŸใ‚นใฃใŸใ“ใจใ‚’ๅฟ˜ใ‚Œใฆใ‚‹ๆ™‚ใŒ็ตๆง‹ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
H: Yeah, there are also times when I forget mistakes in my jumps, etc.    
Kanon Matsuda x Yuzuru Hanyu
ๆพ็”ฐ:็พฝ็”Ÿ้ธๆ‰‹ใฏใ€ๆ›ฒ้ธใณใฏใฉใ†ใชใ•ใฃใฆใ‚‹ใ‚“ใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
M: How do you choose the songs for your programs?
 
็พฝ็”Ÿ:ใƒ•ใƒชใƒผใซ้–ขใ—ใฆใฏใ€ๆœ€่ฟ‘๏ผ•ใ€œ๏ผ–ๅนดใฏ่‡ชๅˆ†ใง้ธๆ›ฒใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ใใฎๅŸบๆบ–ใฏ่‡ชๅˆ†ใŒใใฎใƒ—ใƒญใ‚ฐใƒฉใƒ ใซๅฏพใ—ใฆใฉใ‚Œใ ใ‘่ˆˆๅ‘ณใ‚’ๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‹ใ€‚ใใฎๆ›ฒใ ใ‘ใง๏ผ‘ๅนด๏ผ’ๅนดใใ‚‰ใ„ๆป‘ใ‚‰ใชใใ‚ƒใ„ใ‘ใชใใฆใ€ๆฏŽๆ—ฅๆป‘ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ‚„ใฃใฑใ‚Š่žใ้ฃฝใใฆใใŸใ‚Šใ‚‚ใ—ใกใ‚ƒใ†ใ€‚ๆƒ…็†ฑใ‚’ๆณจใ’ใ‚‹ใ‹ๆณจใ’ใชใ„ใ‹ใฃใฆใ™ใ”ใๅคงใใ„ใ‚“ใงใ™ใ€‚

H: For my free skate, I've chosen the songs myself for the past 5-6 years.The standard I follow is how much interest I have in the program. I'll be skating that program everyday for a year or two, so there will definitely be times that I'll get tired of listening to the song. It is a huge deal whether I can be passionate about the song or not.
 
ใ ใ‹ใ‚‰โ€œๆทฑใฟโ€ใŒใชใ„ใจ่ฟฝๆฑ‚ใ—ใใ‚Œใชใ„ใ€‚ใงใ‚‚ใƒ•ใ‚ฃใ‚ฎใƒฅใ‚ขใ‚นใ‚ฑใƒผใƒˆใฎๅ ดๅˆใ€ๆ›ฒใŒ้›ฃใ—ใ™ใŽใ‚‹ใจใ€่ฆ‹ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ๆ–นใ€…ใฏใ€Œใ‚ใ‚้›ฃใ—ใ„ใชใ€ใง็ต‚ใ‚ใฃใกใ‚ƒใ†ใ€‚
So, you can't pursue a song without "depth". But, in the case of figure skating, if the song is too difficult, people watching will end up thinking, "Oh, itโ€™s difficult."
 
ๆพ็”ฐ:ใ†ใ‚“ใ†ใ‚“ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ใใ†ใงใ™ใญใ€‚
M: I understand what you're saying.
 
็พฝ็”Ÿ:ใ ใ‹ใ‚‰ใใ‚Œใฏใ™ใ”ใๆณจๆ„ใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚ใฉใ†ใ„ใ†ๆ›ฒใŒใฟใชใ•ใ‚“ใซไผใ‚ใ‚Šใ‚„ใ™ใ„ใฎใ‹ใ€่‡ชๅˆ†ใฎไผใˆใ‚ˆใ†ใจๆ€ใˆใ‚‹ใ‚‚ใฎใŒไผใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‹ใ€‚
H: That's why I pay a lot of attention to what kind of songs are easy to convey to people and easy for me to use to express what I want to express.
 
ๆพ็”ฐ:ใ™ใ”ใ„ใงใ™ใ€‚ใงใ‚‚้›ฃใ—ใ„ใ€‚็งใฎๅ ดๅˆใƒชใ‚ตใ‚คใ‚ฟใƒซใ ใจ๏ผ‘ๆ™‚้–“ๅŠๅผพใ„ใฆใชใ‘ใ‚Œใฐใชใ‚‰ใชใ„ใฎใงใ€ไฝ“ๅŠ›ใŒๆŒใคใ‹ใฉใ†ใ‹ใ‚‚่จˆ็ฎ—ใ—ใฆใ€‚ใ‚†ใฃใใ‚Šใชๆ›ฒใฐใฃใ‹ใ‚Šใ ใจไฝ“ๅŠ›็š„ใซใฏๆฅฝใงใ™ใŒใ€่ดใ„ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ไบบใฏใคใพใ‚‰ใชใ„ใ˜ใ‚ƒใชใ„ใงใ™ใ‹ใ€‚

M: Amazing! But that is a difficult thing. In my case, I have to play for an hour and a half for a recital, so I also have to calculate whether I'll have the physical strength or not. Physically, it's easier for me to only play slow music, but the people listening will get bored of that, right?
ๆ”ฏใˆใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€ๅคขใซๅ‘ใ‹ใฃใฆใŒใ‚“ใฐใ‚Œใ‚‹
Because of the support, we can try our best to achieve our dreams.
 
็พฝ็”Ÿ:ๆพ็”ฐใ•ใ‚“ใฏ๏ผ–ๆญณใ‹ใ‚‰ใƒขใ‚นใ‚ฏใƒฏใงใƒ”ใ‚ขใƒŽใ‚’ๅญฆใ‚“ใงใ„ใฆใ€ไปŠใฏใƒญใ‚ทใ‚ขๆ”ฟๅบœใฎ็‰นๅˆฅๅฅจๅญฆ็”Ÿใจใ—ใฆใƒขใ‚นใ‚ฏใƒฏ้Ÿณๆฅฝ้™ขใซๅœจ็ฑใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚“ใงใ™ใ‚ˆใญใ€‚
H: You have studied piano in Moscow since you were 6 years old and now you're enrolled in the Moscow Conservatory as a special scholar of the Russian government, right?
 
ใƒญใ‚ทใ‚ขใฎ่Šธ่ก“ใฎๅˆ†้‡Žใฏใ€่‹ฅใ„ๆ‰่ƒฝใ‚’่‚ฒใฆใ‚‹ๆ–‡ๅŒ–ใฟใŸใ„ใชใ‚‚ใฎใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‚“ใงใ™ใ‹ใ€‚
Does the Russian art sector cultivate young talent?
 
ๆพ็”ฐ:ใฏใ„ใ€‚ใƒญใ‚ทใ‚ขใฏ่Šธ่ก“ใ‚’ๆ”ฏใˆใ‚‹ไป•็ต„ใฟใŒใ—ใฃใ‹ใ‚Šใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจๆ„Ÿใ˜ใพใ™ใ€‚
M: Yes. And I think Russia has a solid support mechanism for the arts.
 
็งใŒๅ’ๆฅญใ—ใŸใ‚ฐใƒใƒผใ‚ทใƒณ้Ÿณๆฅฝๅญฆๆ กใฏใ€ๅŸบๆœฌ็š„ใซใฏๅ…จๅ“กใ€ๅญฆ่ฒปใŒๅ…จ้กๅ…้™คใงใ—ใŸใ€‚ใŸใ ใ—ใ€ๅธธใซๅŽณใ—ใ„่ฉฆ้จ“ใŒใ‚ใฃใฆใ€ๅŸบๆบ–ใซใตใ•ใ‚ใ—ใใชใ„ไบบใฏ็ฟŒๅนดใ‹ใ‚‰ๅญฆ่ฒปใŒใ‹ใ‹ใฃใŸใ‚Šใ€ๅˆๆ ผ็‚นใ‚’ใจใ‚Œใชใ„ใจ้€€ๅญฆๅ‡ฆๅˆ†ใซใชใฃใŸใ‚Šใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
Basically, at the music school from which I graduated, all students are exempt from tuition.
However, there are strict exams. Those who don't meet the standards will be charged tuition the following year or will be expelled unless they can pass.
 
ๅŽณใ—ใ„ใงใ™ใŒใ€ใใ†ใ„ใ†ใ‚ทใ‚นใƒ†ใƒ ใฏ็ด ๆ™ดใ‚‰ใ—ใ„ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚็พๅœจใฎใƒขใ‚นใ‚ฏใƒฏ้Ÿณๆฅฝ้™ขใฏใ€ใƒญใ‚ทใ‚ขไบบใฎใƒˆใƒƒใƒ—40ไบบใฏๅญฆ่ฒปใŒๅ…จ้กๅ…้™คใงใ™ใ€‚็งใฏๅค–ๅ›ฝไบบๆž ใงใชใ็พๅœฐใƒญใ‚ทใ‚ขไบบใจๅŒใ˜่ฉฆ้จ“ใ‚’ๅ—ใ‘ใฆๆ”ฟๅบœ็‰นๅˆฅๅฅจๅญฆ็”Ÿใซ้ธใ‚“ใงใ„ใŸใ ใใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
It's tough, but I think the system's great. Currently, at the Moscow Conservatory, the top 40 Russian students are exempt from tuition fees.
I took the same exams as the local Russians, unlike foreigners, and was selected to be a special government scholar.
 
็พฝ็”Ÿ:ใ™ใ”ใ„ใงใ™ใญใ€‚ๅƒ•ใ‚‚JSCใƒˆใƒƒใƒ—ใ‚ขใ‚นใƒชใƒผใƒˆใจใ—ใฆใ€ใ‚นใƒใƒผใƒ„ใใ˜๏ผˆtotoใƒปBIG)ใฎๅŽ็›Šใซใ‚ˆใ‚‹ๅŠฉๆˆใซใ‚ˆใ‚Šๆ”ฏใˆใ‚‰ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
H: That's so impressive! I'm also supported by subsidies sponsored by the revenue of a sports lottery (toto BIG) as a JSC top athlete.
 
ใ‚นใ‚ฑใƒผใƒˆใฏใ™ใ”ใใŠ้‡‘ใฎใ‹ใ‹ใ‚‹ใ‚นใƒใƒผใƒ„ใชใฎใงใ€ใ“ใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใชๅŠฉๆˆใฎไป•็ต„ใฟใ€ใใ—ใฆใŸใใ•ใ‚“ใฎใƒ•ใ‚กใƒณใฎๅฟœๆดใซๅŠ›ใ‚’ใ‚‚ใ‚‰ใ„ใชใŒใ‚‰ๅคขใซๅ‘ใ‹ใฃใฆใŒใ‚“ใฐใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
Skating is a very costly sport, so with this subsidy mechanism and the power gained through the support of my fans, I'm striving towards my dreams.  
 
ๆพ็”ฐ:็งใ‚‚็š†ใ•ใ‚“ใซๆ”ฏใˆใฆ้ ‚ใ„ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใซๆ„Ÿ่ฌใ—ใชใŒใ‚‰ใ€ใ“ใ‚Œใ‹ใ‚‰ใ‚‚ใŒใ‚“ใฐใฃใฆใ„ใ“ใ†ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
M: I'm grateful to everyone for supporting me. I think I will try my best in the future as well.
ไธ€ใคใฒใจใคใฎๅ‹•ใใ€้Ÿณใ€‚ๅ…จใฆใซๆ„ๅ‘ณใ‚’ใ“ใ‚ใ‚‹
Each movement, a sound. Adding meaning to everything

็พฝ็”Ÿ:ๆพ็”ฐใ•ใ‚“ใฏ6ๆญณใ‹ใ‚‰ใšใฃใจใƒขใ‚นใ‚ฏใƒฏใงๆšฎใ‚‰ใ—ใฆใ‚‹ใ‚“ใงใ™ใ‚ˆใญใ€‚็พๅœฐใงใฎใ‚นใ‚ฑใƒผใƒˆไบบๆฐ—ใฏใฉใ†ใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
H: You've been living in Moscow since you were 6 years old, haven't you? How is the popularity of skating there?
 
ๆพ็”ฐ:ใฏใ„ใ€ๅคงไบบๆฐ—ใงใ™ใ€‚ใƒขใ‚นใ‚ฏใƒฏๅธ‚ๅ†…ใซใฏใ‚นใ‚ฑใƒผใƒˆใƒชใƒณใ‚ฏใŒใŸใใ•ใ‚“ใ‚ใฃใฆใ€่ตคใฎๅบƒๅ ดใ‚‚ๅ†ฌใซใฏใƒชใƒณใ‚ฏใŒใงใใพใ™ใ€‚
M: I have. Figure skating is very popular.
There are many skating rinks in Moscow. Thereโ€™s a rink at Red Square in the winter as well.
 
ใงใ™ใ‹ใ‚‰้ธๆ‰‹ใ‚’ๅฟœๆดใ™ใ‚‹ใฎใฏใ‚‚ใกใ‚ใ‚“ใ€ๅคงๅ‹ขใฎๅธ‚ๆฐ‘ใŒๆ—ฅๅธธ็š„ใซใ‚นใ‚ฑใƒผใƒˆใ‚’ๆฅฝใ—ใ‚€็’ฐๅขƒใซใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
So it's an environment where many citizens enjoy skating on a daily basis, as well as supporting skaters.
 
็งใ‚‚ๆ™‚ใ€…ใ€Œๆป‘ใ‚ใ†ใ‚ˆใ€ใจ่ช˜ใ‚ใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ‚“ใงใ™ใŒใ€ใ‚ฑใ‚ฌใ‚’ใ™ใ‚‹ใจๆผ”ๅฅใซๅฝฑ้ŸฟใŒๅ‡บใ‚‹ใฎใงใ‚„ใฃใŸใ“ใจใฏใชใ„ใ‚“ใงใ™ใ‘ใฉใ€‚
I've also been asked, "Let's go skate", but, if I get injured, my performance will be affected, so I've never gone skating unfortunately.
 
็พฝ็”Ÿ:ๅƒ•ใฏใƒญใ‚ทใ‚ขใฎๆŒฏไป˜ๅธซใฎๆ–นใซใ‚‚ๆ•™ใ‚ใฃใŸใ“ใจใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‚“ใงใ™ใ€‚ใใฎๆ™‚ใซๆ•™ใ‚ใฃใŸใฎใฏใ€ใƒกใƒชใƒใƒชใ ใฃใŸใ‚ŠๅŠ›ๅผทใ•ใ ใฃใŸใ‚Šใ€ๅ‘ผๅธใฎไฝฟใ„ๆ–นใ€ไฝ“ใฎๅ‹•ใ‹ใ—ๆ–นใจใ‹ใชใ‚“ใงใ™ใ€‚
H: I've been taught by Russian choreographers in the past. What I was taught was sharpness and power, as well as how to use breathing, how to move my body, things like that.
 
ใใ—ใฆไปŠๆ—ฅใ€ๆพ็”ฐใ•ใ‚“ใฎๆผ”ๅฅใซใ‚‚ใใ‚ŒใŒใ™ใ”ใๅ‡บใฆใ„ใฆใ€ๅ…ฑๆ„Ÿใ™ใ‚‹ใจใ“ใ‚ใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ๆพ็”ฐใ•ใ‚“ใซใจใฃใฆใ€ใƒญใ‚ทใ‚ขใงๅŸนใฃใฆใใฆใ€Œใ“ใ‚ŒใŒไธ€็•ชใŸใ‚ใซใชใฃใŸใ€ใจใ„ใ†ใ‚‚ใฎใฏไฝ•ใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
And today, I got the same sense from your performance. I felt empathy.
What was the most beneficial thing youโ€™ve cultivated in Russia?
 
ๆพ็”ฐ:ใ‚ฐใƒใƒผใ‚ทใƒณ้Ÿณๆฅฝๅญฆๆ กใฎใ‚จใƒฌใƒผใƒŠใƒปใ‚คใƒฏใƒŽใƒผใƒฏๅ…ˆ็”ŸใŒใ€12ๅนด้–“ๅญฆใ‚“ใงใ„ใŸ็งใซใšใƒผใฃใจ่จ€ใฃใฆใใ ใ•ใฃใฆใ„ใŸใ“ใจใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
M: Professor Elena Ivanova of the Gnessin Academy of Music has spoken with me for the last 12 years I've been studying.
 
ใใ‚Œใฏใ€Œ็ตถๅฏพใซๆ„ๅ‘ณใฎใชใ„้Ÿณใ‚’ๅผพใใ‚“ใ˜ใ‚ƒใชใ„ใ€ใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚ๅฟ…ใšไธ€้Ÿณไธ€้Ÿณใซๆ„ๅ‘ณใ‚’ไฝœใ‚Šใชใ•ใ„ใจใ€‚ใƒ•ใƒฌใƒผใ‚บใซ่จ€่‘‰ใ‚’ใคใ‘ใŸใ‚Šใ‚นใƒˆใƒผใƒชใƒผใ‚’่€ƒใˆใŸใ‚Šใ€‚ใใฎใŸใ‚ใซใฏใ“ใฎๆœฌใ‚’่ชญใฟใชใ•ใ„ใ€ใ“ใฎๆ˜ ็”ปใ‚’่ฆ‹ใชใ•ใ„ใ€ใ“ใฎ็ตตใ‚’่ฆ‹ใชใ•ใ„ใฃใฆใ€‚
[How can you embrace passion in music or pursue depth?]
"Never play sounds that are meaningless." Be sure to create meaning in every sound.
She told me to practice thinking of words or to create stories to the phrases. Sheโ€™d tell me to read this book, watch this movie, look at this picture - stuff like that, in order to do so.
 
็พฝ็”Ÿ:ใ†ใƒผใ‚“ใ€‚ใชใ‚‹ใปใฉใ€ๅ‹‰ๅผทใซใชใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
H: I see. Interesting. I've learned something.
 
ๆพ็”ฐ:ๅ…ˆ็”ŸใŒๆ•™ใˆใฆใใ ใ•ใฃใŸใฎใฏใ€ไฝ“ใฎไฝฟใ„ๆ–นใ‚‚ใงใ™ใญใ€‚็งใฏๆ™ฎ้€šใฎใƒ”ใ‚ขใƒ‹ใ‚นใƒˆใฎๆ–นใซๆฏ”ในใฆๆ‰‹ใŒๅฐใ•ใใฆ่…•ใ‚‚็ดฐใ‚ใชใฎใงใ€ใฉใ†ใ‚„ใฃใฆๅŠ›ใ‚’ๅ…ฅใ‚ŒใŸใ‚‰ใฉใ‚“ใช้ŸณใŒๅ‡บใ‚‹ใ‹ใจใ‹ใ€ใฉใ“ใงๅŠ›ใ‚’ๆŠœใใ‹ใจใ‹ใ€ใใ†ใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใ‚’ใ€‚
M: She also taught me how to use my body. I have smaller hands and thinner arms than most pianists, so how much power to put in, what kind of sound comes out when I do so, where to draw power from. She taught me such things.
 
็พฝ็”Ÿ:ๅƒ•ใ‚‰ใฎ็ซถๆŠ€ใ‚‚ไฝ“ใฎ็‰นๅพดใŒใ™ใ”ใๅฝฑ้Ÿฟใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
H: The characteristics of our bodies also have a great influence in figure skating.
 
ใ‚นใ‚ฟใ‚คใƒซใ€่บซ้•ทใ€ๆ‰‹่ถณใฎ้•ทใ•ใ€‚ๅƒ•ใ‚‚ใƒญใ‚ทใ‚ขใฎๅ…ˆ็”Ÿใซๆ•™ใ‚ใฃใŸๆ™‚ใซใ€Œใ‚ใชใŸใฏใ›ใฃใ‹ใๆ‰‹่ถณใŒ้•ทใ„ใ‚“ใ ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€ใ‚‚ใฃใจไฝฟใ„ใชใ•ใ„ใ€ใจใ€ใใ†ใ„ใ†ๅ…ทไฝ“็š„ใชใ“ใจใ‚’ๆ•™ใˆใฆใ‚‚ใ‚‰ใˆใŸใ“ใจใ‚’ใ‚ใ‚‰ใŸใ‚ใฆๆ€ใ„ๅ‡บใ—ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
Style, height, length of limbs. When I was taught by a Russian teacher, I was told, "Because you have long limbs, utilize them more." Iโ€™m once again reminded of that specific advice.
 
ๅฎŸใฏไปŠใ‚ทใƒผใ‚บใƒณใ€ใƒ•ใƒชใƒผใƒ—ใƒญใ‚ฐใƒฉใƒ ใงใ€ŽSEIMEIใ€๏ผˆๆ˜ ็”ปใ€Ž้™ฐ้™ฝๅธซใ€ใ‚ตใ‚ฆใƒณใƒ‰ใƒˆใƒฉใƒƒใ‚ฏใ‚ˆใ‚Š๏ผ‰ใจใ„ใ†ๆ›ฒใ‚’ไฝฟ็”จใ™ใ‚‹ใ‚“ใงใ™ใ‘ใฉใ€ใ“ใฎใƒ—ใƒญใ‚ฐใƒฉใƒ ใงใ‚‚ไธ€ใคใฒใจใคใฎๆŒฏใ‚Šใ€ๅ˜็ด”ใชๅŸบๆœฌๅ‹•ไฝœใซใ‚‚ๆ„ๅ‘ณใ‚’ใ‚‚ใŸใ›ใชใ•ใ„ใฃใฆใ™ใ”ใ่จ€ใ‚ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ไปŠๆ—ฅใฏๆพ็”ฐใ•ใ‚“ใจใŠ่ฉฑใ—ใ—ใฆใ€ๅ…ฑ้€šใ™ใ‚‹้ƒจๅˆ†ใŒใŸใใ•ใ‚“ใ‚ใ‚‹ใชใ‚ใฃใฆๆ€ใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
And, actually, this season, I'm using a song Seimei (from the soundtrack of the movie "Onmyoji") in the free program, but even in this program, my choreographer told me that I need to make sure that every single movement , every simple action has meaning.
Today, I talked with you and realized that we have a lot in common.
 ๆ–ฐใŸใชใ‚นใƒ†ใƒผใ‚ธใ‚’ใ‚ใ–ใ™ใ€ใใ‚Œใžใ‚Œใฎ้“
Aiming for a new stage, on each different path
 
็พฝ็”Ÿ:ๆพ็”ฐใ•ใ‚“ใฎไปŠๅพŒใฎ็›ฎๆจ™ใ‚„ไบˆๅฎšใ‚’ๆ•™ใˆใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚
H: Could you tell me your goals and plans?
 
ๆพ็”ฐ:2017ๅนด6ๆœˆใซ2ๆžš็›ฎใฎใ‚ขใƒซใƒใƒ ใ€Žใƒ ใ‚ฝใƒซใ‚ฐใ‚นใ‚ญใƒผ:ๅฑ•่ฆงไผšใฎ็ตตใ€ใŒใƒชใƒชใƒผใ‚นใ•ใ‚Œใพใ—ใŸใ€‚็ง‹ใ‹ใ‚‰ใฏใใฎใ‚ขใƒซใƒใƒ ใฎใƒชใ‚ตใ‚คใ‚ฟใƒซใŒใŸใใ•ใ‚“ใ‚ใ‚‹ใฎใงใ€ใฟใชใ•ใพใซๅ–œใ‚“ใงใ„ใŸใ ใ‘ใ‚‹ๆผ”ๅฅใŒใงใใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใŒใ‚“ใฐใฃใฆใ„ใใŸใ„ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
M: In June 2017, my second album, "Mussorgsky: Pictures at an Exhibition" was released. Since autumn, there have been a lot of recitals for that album. So, I'd like to do my best to play with pleasure for everyone.
 
ใ“ใฎใ‚ขใƒซใƒใƒ ใฎ8ๆ›ฒ็›ฎใซใ€Žใƒžใƒผใ‚ญใƒฅใ‚ทใ‚ชใ€๏ผˆใ€Šใƒญใƒกใ‚ชใจใ‚ธใƒฅใƒชใ‚จใƒƒใƒˆใ€‹ใ‚ˆใ‚Š10ใฎๅฐๅ“ ไฝœๅ“75:็ฌฌ8ๆ›ฒ๏ผ‰ใจใ„ใ†ๆ›ฒใŒๅŽ้Œฒใ•ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใงใ™ใŒใ€ใ“ใฎๆ›ฒใ‚’็พฝ็”Ÿ้ธๆ‰‹ใŒใ‚นใ‚ฑใƒผใƒˆใงๆป‘ใฃใŸใ‚‰ใฉใ‚“ใชใตใ†ใซใชใ‚‹ใ‚“ใ ใ‚ใ†ใชใจใ€ๅ€‹ไบบ็š„ใซใใ‚“ใชใ“ใจใ‚‚ๆƒณๅƒใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
The 8th song on the album is "Mercutio" (from "Romeo and Juliet"). Personally, Iโ€™m imagining and wonder how itโ€™d be if you skated to that song.
 
็พฝ็”Ÿ:่ดใใซ่กŒใใŸใ„ใงใ™ใญใƒผใ€‚ใ‚ทใƒผใ‚บใƒณไธญใ‹ใชใƒผ๏ผˆ็ฌ‘๏ผ‰ใ€‚
H: I'd love to go to a recital to listen to that song. I wonder if itโ€™ll be the middle of the skating season. [laughs]
 
ๆพ็”ฐ:็พฝ็”Ÿ้ธๆ‰‹ใฏๅนณๆ˜Œใ‚ชใƒชใƒณใƒ”ใƒƒใ‚ฏใŒๆŽงใˆใฆใ„ใพใ™ใŒใ€ๆ„ๆฐ—่พผใฟใ‚’่žใ‹ใ›ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚
M: The Pyeongchang Olympics are coming. Please tell me about your enthusiasm.
 
็พฝ็”Ÿ:ใ‚ชใƒชใƒณใƒ”ใƒƒใ‚ฏใซๅ‘ใ‘ใฆ่‡ชๅˆ†ใฎไฝ“่ชฟ็ฎก็†ใจใ‹ใ‚’ใ—ใฃใ‹ใ‚Šใ‚„ใ‚ŠใŸใ„ใงใ™ใญใ€‚ใ‚ใจใฏใ‚ฑใ‚ฌใŒใคใใ‚‚ใฎใฎใ‚นใƒใƒผใƒ„ใชใฎใงใ€ใจใซใ‹ใใ‚ฑใ‚ฌใซๆฐ—ใ‚’ใคใ‘ใฆใ€ๆฏŽๆ—ฅ็ทด็ฟ’ใ‚’ใŒใ‚“ใฐใฃใฆใ„ใ‘ใŸใ‚‰ใ„ใ„ใชใฃใฆใ„ใ†ใฎใŒไปŠใฎๆฐ—ๆŒใกใงใ™ใ€‚
H: I want to properly manage my physical condition and such for the Olympics. Also, since injury is inherent in sports, I need to be careful of that hope that I can do my best every day. Thatโ€™s my current feeling.
 
ๆพ็”ฐ:ใŒใ‚“ใฐใฃใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€ๅฟœๆดใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
M: Please do your best! Iโ€™m rooting for you!